01/12/2009

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"What will the ban on minarets in Switzerland achieve?"

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Source: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=7284

 

 

 

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:42 GMT 17:42 UK

 

Well done Switzerland and the Swiss people! A great example of direct democracy in action - what we sadly lack in the UK. the Swiss people have shown that they are not willing to put up with the destruction of their culture and traditions and have decided to fight back. Congratulations to them.

 

Mark LV, Reading, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:48 GMT 17:48 UK

 

At least the Swiss people are offered a vote - in this country we are treated as fools who just have to do as they are told - if such a vote took place here, the vocal minority would decry everyone as racist.

 

[Rambling_Royston], Whitley Bay

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:33 GMT 17:33 UK

 

The Swiss people are protecting there culture & heritage, what's wrong with that?

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 18:12 GMT 18:12 UK

 

It will help Switzerland retain its own character and national identity.

 

The Muslims are always free to exercise their right to leave and go to another country if they don't like it.

 

Chris, Nottingham

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:48 GMT 17:48 UK

 

I envy the Swiss.

 

I'd love to be able to vote to set standards that visitors to our country have to abide by; whether they be religious or otherwise.

 

Instead, as a white, able-bodied, hetrosexual, Christian man, I am relegated to the bottom of the pecking order in just about any category you care to mention.

 

I'd move to Switzerland, but as they're outside the EU, they're allowed to control immigration too.

 

Imagine that...

 

[SudaNim], United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:50 GMT 17:50 UK

 

The ban represents a start in a stand against the gradual Islamification of Europe.

 

[DaMuttzNutz], Malvern, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:55 GMT 17:55 UK

 

Now that our European counterparts have taken the lead, can we have a similar proposal to vote in Britain, please.

 

yash l, london

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:44 GMT 17:44 UK

 

Hooray! Well done, Switzerland. That's exactly what we need here.

 

Steve, UK

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:45 GMT 17:45 UK

 

Bravo to the Swiss if only we had such democracy.

 

Gary Rush, london, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:48 GMT 17:48 UK

 

Is there any church in Saudi Arabia? Do muslim countries respect other faiths in their country? No.

 

Swiss people made the right decision. You should treat muslims like how they treat you. I live in the so called secular Turkey but I can't express my opinion without fear. Actually most of the muslims are immigrants in Switzerland, muslim countries don't respect even their own citizens.

 

Deniz Sonmez, Izmir, Turkey

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:42 GMT 17:42 UK

 

This is a clear sign in Western Europe that Islamisisation is of concern to the majority. In this country we have abandoned Integration in favour of Diversity. Diversity is another name for Division. Now we are receiving demands to be subjected to Sharia Law. What next?

 

Mr Jones, Wales, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:37 GMT 17:37 UK

 

At long last someone has had the guts to stand up and say what the majority of people are thinking but are too scared to say for fear of reprisals. When is this country going to follow suit?

 

I realise that the majority of legal immigrants are peace loving and want nothing to do with the extremists however they are doing nothing to root this evil out. They protect them and so long as this continues then people will regard Islamists with deep suspicion.

 

Helen, Edinburgh

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:49 GMT 17:49 UK

 

Another great decision from one of the most enlightened nations on earth. Christians would not be allowed to build cathedrals in Islamic countries so why should minarets (or even mosques for that matter) be allowed in Christian countries? It's purely symbolic and says 'we've started to take over your country' which is the whole intention as has been stated by Muslims many times.

 

I'd personally prefer no religious buildings but am happy for the Swiss decision.

 

Rufus McDufus, Twickenham, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:36 GMT 17:36 UK

 

Good on the Swiss!

 

If only we were outside the EU we could stand up for our traditions too. Sadly we have to kowtow to the unelected in Brussels and Starsbourg.

 

[chiptheduck], England, a suburb of Brussels

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 19:20 GMT 19:20 UK

 

It is interesting that Muslims are very upset by the approval vote of the ban. I am not Muslim, when I traveled to Saudi Arabia, I was FORCED to where a burqa.Arabic countries enforce their religious/cultural norms on others, Switzerland is not an Arabic country, so why can't Switzerland enforce their norms?

They are not restricting the building of mosques, and certainly no restriction on the freedom of worship? Muslims want us to conform to their norms in their lands and accept theirs here.

 

Diana, Charlotte, NC, USA

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:42 GMT 17:42 UK

 

"Swiss voters have backed a ban on building more minarets in their country. What's your view?"

 

The citizens of Switzerland have asserted their authority over the politicians.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:44 GMT 17:44 UK

 

I believe the achievement was proper democracy in action. The will of the majority is respected. Pity Brown his cabinet does not understand how democracy works.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 18:09 GMT 18:09 UK

 

I think the ban is perfectly acceptable. The Swiss are not banning mosques, but just the construction of minarets. It is well within their right to do so, and all they are doing is protecting their culture. If a similar referendum were to happen in Britain, its more than likely we would ban them as well.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 20:11 GMT 20:11 UK

 

The Swiss were perfectly right to vote on this issue. I just wish that we in Britain would be consulted by the political elite on such an issue.

 

If Muslims don't like the decision, you're welcome to leave. Switzerland, whether you're religious or not, has a Christian heritage and can still be described as a Christian country.

 

It's about time people stood up for their cultures in Europe.

 

For once the silent majority have been heard. Well done Switzerland.

 

David, London

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 19:46 GMT 19:46 UK

 

Good, now lets have the vote in the UK.

 

[gothlampy], Sheffield, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:43 GMT 17:43 UK

 

It will stop the religion of Islam bulldozing over the Swiss national identity and reaffirm the Swiss peoples right to maintain their culture and traditions.

 

That is a profoundly good thing for the future of Europes secular traditions. Those that cater for their own interests and separate themselves from the rest of the the free and democratic people of the world do so at odds with community cohesion. Europe is not part of Islam it is part of planet Earth.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:47 GMT 17:47 UK

 

It would be more effective to ban mosques than just minarets. No mosque, no minaret.

 

Blue American, Seattle, United States

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 22:59 GMT 22:59 UK

 

So, let me see if I understand this....

 

The Goevernment let the people vote on this issue.

 

The people decided that they do not want Minarets.

 

The Government do not agree with the decision but, as Switzerland is a fair and civilised country, they are prepared to uphold and stand by the decision their people have made....

 

 

What a strange system they have - Perhaps we could try it some time Gordon!

 

Michael paul, Somerset, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 18:47 GMT 18:47 UK

 

Isnt it amazing what politicians and the PC think tanks can learn from asking the silent majority their views in referenda or ballot ?

 

In this case the Swiss speak for most indiginous Europeans; we've had enough "islamisation". By all means let them practice their faith but do so with the same tolerance we accord them.

 

Transforming our built environment with minarets is a step too far - if the Muslims really cant do without them, there are plenty in Instanbul.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:55 GMT 17:55 UK

 

Before people start to complain, I feel compelled to point out that churches and other such structures are banned outright in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Yemen and most other Middle Eastern countries, purely because they are places of worship for religions other than Islam. Let's have a little perspective here.

 

Good on the Swiss for having the courage to state how they feel. It is not to do with religious intolerance and more to do with the unique visual appeal that Swiss towns have.

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 22:31 GMT 22:31 UK

 

Why is there no hue and cry about Islamic countries forbidding the building of churches in their country (Saudi Arabia) much less teaching Christianity and killing people for converting from Islam. The Swiss have always been a deliberate and sensible people and their wishes should be respected in this matter.

 

James Mongno, Jacksonville, AR

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:56 GMT 17:56 UK

 

If only the many peace loving Muslims would openly condemn the extremists, and rise up against them in no uncertain terms, then I'm sure we wouldn't even be having this debate.Many of us look upon minarets as a symbol of the Taliban, the denigration of women and violence against non-believers. We are not a Muslim country and do not wish for Sharia law or Halal rituals of killing animals. The Swiss people have made their choice and good luck to them.

 

[smilingparrotfan], london, United Kingdom

 

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Added: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 18:13 GMT 18:13 UK

 

The right decision. Minerets do not belong in Switzerland, they absolutely do not fit the architecture and the culture of that nation and the same can be said in Germany where Minerets/Mosques are banned in most areas.

 

[bumbleboo], Stuttgart, Germany

 

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